Wednesday, 14 March 2012

XF305 and HPX250 comparison

Panasonic AG-HPX250
I’ve recently written a review of the Panasonic AG-HPX250 over on our UrbanFox.TV technology blog, but how does it relate to its biggest rival?

On this page I thought it would be interesting to compare and contrast the HPX250 with the Canon XF305, its direct rival. I’ve chosen the XF305, rather than the XF300, because they both have the timecode in/out and Genlock (and the XF300 does not) so it is a more fair comparison.

Now, within a certain price range all cameras are pretty similar, they all have to focus, white balance and exposure controls (iris, gain, shutter and ND filter). The differences really come down to ergonomics, the quality of the hardware components, how the video is compressed and software tweaks.

When people ask what kit should they buy – my first question is how much do you want to spend? We all have Champagne taste but sadly only beer money.

COSTS

The Panasonic AG-HPX250 is retailing around £3,550 plus VAT while the XF305 is £5,040 +VAT. A difference of £1,490 – quite a lot if you are on a tight budget. But, before you start flexing the credit card remember you’ll need some media to record onto.

The HPX250 records onto P2 – which isn’t the cheapest recording media out there but it is very reliable and unlike Compact Flash has 'write protect' to stop you accidentally deleting your media.

A 32GB P2 card is around - £375 inc VAT while a 64GB card could set you back £550 inc VAT.

In comparison a 32GB Compact Flash card for the XF305 would be about £95 inc VAT and a 64Gb around £320 inc VAT

If both cameras are recording at 50Mbps, the XF305 is cheaper to run. But if you record at the highest setting on the HPX250 at 100Mbps – the quality improves, but you’ll need more storage space. So, do factor that into the price.

Recording Format
Recording time on 64GB card

AVC-I 100
DVCPRO HD
64 mins
Page 14 of the Panasonic manual
AVC-I 50
128 mins
Canon 50Mbps
160 mins
Page 194 of the Canon manual

Please note: When I put this table together I assumed I’d got it wrong and checked again. But, these are the figures in the manuals. I must admit I don’t quite understand – what is going on with the recording times. If the XF305 can get 160 mins on a 64GB card (@50Mbps) then how come the HPX250 only gets 128 minutes. What else is it writing on the card?

50Mbps V 100Mbps

This leads me on to the next big difference between the two cameras: The XF305 can reach a maximum recording of 50Mbps while the HPX250 can do 50 and 100Mbps. For some of you that might be a deal breaker. It isn’t for me – I don’t need the extra quality 100Mbps would give me – plus that’s a lot more storage space I’m going to need…and at 100Mbps I’m going to need twice as much!  Of course, I could get the extra out of my XF305 if I needed to by recording from the HD-SDI output. But that does mean having to attach a separate field recorder to the camera - which can be a pain. If 100Mbps is what you need - then the HPX250 should be on your shortlist.

50Hz V 60Hz

I only shoot in the UK for the web so the fact that my XF305 only has 50i, 50p and 25p is not really an issue (similarly, the 60Hz version is limited to 24/30/60). But some of you have clients in both 50Hz (PAL) and 50Hz (NTSC) areas and want to be able to switch easily from one to the other. Certainly a news bureaux would probably find it useful to be able to switch from 50Hz to 60Hz recording to feed pictures to different countries. 

Canon  XF305
Panasonic HPX250
50Hz (PAL) area cameras
1080i50
1080p25
720p50
720p25

60Hz (NTSC) area cameras
1080i60
1080p30
1080p24
720p60
720p30
720p24

Not area specific

1080i59.94
1080i50
720p59.94
720p50
480i59.94
576i50


You'll also notice on this table that the Panasonic does Standard Definition (SD) recording too. I know we all think the whole world has gone HD - but actually it hasn't. There are some countries quite happily recording and broadcasting in SD. This might be a good future proof camera for them - as they can easily change to HD when they are ready.

Flash Banding

The only other big difference I could find was something to keep the wedding videographer happy. At weddings and red carpet events you’ll see a lot of flash guns going off around you. Unfortunately if you are recording video using a camera with CMOS sensors (most modern cameras) those flashes can cause problems. This is called Flash Banding and you’ll see the brightness at the top of the screen won’t match that at the bottom .

There is a good example of it in this video.



The HPX250 does have a very interesting feature called Flash Band Compensation or FBC. This compensates for and minimises the banding when a flash photo is taken in the camera’s vicinity. So, if you shoot that sort of thing this feature might be of interest.

Side by side

For those of you who just want to do a quick side by side comparision of the features on both cameras I’ve compiled a table (below). Almost all of it is taken from the respective operator’s manuals, which are available if you click the links below. Please make sure you check the manuals before making any buying decisions. [But, if you find any errors in my table do let me know.]

Canon XF305 manual (PAL countries)

Canon XF305 manual (NTSC countries)

Panasonic HPX250  volume 1 quick start guide includes specifications

Panasonic HPX250  volume 2 operating manual

Please note: I have not done a bench test comparison of these two cameras. I don't have the facilities to do such a thing. But, I know a man who does. If you are a pixel peeper then you should read Alan Roberts' reports, which are very thorough. Unfortunately, he hasn't done one for the HPX250. But the BBC did approve the HPX250 based on Alan's testing of the HPX301 and HPX371 as it has the same chip set and codecs. So a look at those reviews is the best I can offer at the moment.

Alan Roberts report on Canon XF305

Alan Roberts report on Panasonic HPX301

Alan Roberts report on Panasonic HPX371



Canon XF305
Panasonic HPX250



PRICE
£5040 ex VAT
£6,048 inc VAT
[XF300 - £4,440 ex VAT
£5,328 inc VAT]

£3,550 ex VAT
£4,260 inc VAT
CENSOR
Three 1/3inch CMOS
Three 1/3inch MOS
PIXELS
1920x1080
(also 1440x1080 @25Mbps)
1920 x1080
LENS ZOOM
18x optical
4.1mm to 73.8mm
29.3mm to 527.4mm equiv 35mm
22x optical
3.9mm to 86mm
28mm to 616mm equiv 35mm
FILTER DIAMETER
82mm
72mm
ND FILTER
CLR  ¼,  1/16,  1/64
CLR  ¼,  1/16,  1/64
LCD SCREEN
10.1cm/4-inch
1,230,000dots
3.45-inch/8.8cm
921,000 dots
ELECTRONIC VIEWFINDER
1.3cm/half-inch
1,555,000 dots
11.43mm/0.45-inches
1,226,000 dots
WHITE BALANCE
Auto
Preset 3200&5600K
Mem A and B
Manual kelvin setting/adjustment
Auto
Preset 3200&5600K
Mem A and B

IRIS
Auto
Manual
Auto
Manual
SHUTTER SPEED
Auto
Speed
Angle
Clear Scan
Slow shutter
1/3 to 1/2000
Auto
Speed
Synchro Scan
Slow shutter

1/6.25 to 1/2000
GAIN
Auto
-6dB to 33dB
Fine Tuning (in 0.5dB increments)
Auto
0dB to 30dB
MINIMUM ILLUMINATION
0.6lux at 50i, 33dB gain 1/3 shutter
0.2Lux at 30dB gain 1/30 shutter
IMAGE STABILSATION
Optical-Shift
Optical
DIGITAL ZOOM
X1.5 (digital tele-converter)
X2, x5, x10
SIGNAL FORMAT
PAL area cameras
1080i50
1080p25
720p50
720p25

NTSC area cameras
1080i60
1080p30
1080p24
720p60
720p30
720p24

Not area specific

1080i59.94
1080i50
720p59.94
720p50
480i59.94
576i50

FRAME RATES 50HZ 1080
12,15,18,20,
21,22,23,24,25fps

1,2,4,6,9,12,15,18,20,
21,22,24,25fps
FRAME RATES 50HZ 720
12,15,18,20,
21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,30,
32,34,37,42,45,48,50fps

1,2,4,6,9,12,15,18,20,
21,22,24,25,26,27,28,30,
32,34,37,42,45,48,50fps
FRAME RATES 60HZ 1080
12,15,18,20,
21,22,24,25,26,27,28,30fps

1,2,4,6,9,12,15,18,20,
21,22,24,25,26,27,28,30fps
FRAME RATES 60HZ 720
12,15,18,20,
21,22,24,25,26,27,28,30,
32,34,36,40,44,48,54,60fps

1,2,4,6,9,12,15,18,20,
21,22,24,25,26,27,28,30,
32,34,36,40,44,48,54,60fps
RECORDING FORMAT
MPEG-2 Long GoP
MXF files  

50Mbps 4:2:2 - 8bit
35Mbps 4:2:0 - 8bit
25Mbps 4:2:0 - 8bit
AVC-Intra 100 -10bit
AVC-Intra 50 -10bit
DVCPRO HD - 8bit
DVCPRO 50 - 8bit
DVCPRO - 8bit
DV - 8bit

AUDIO
2 XLR
2 XLR

AUDIO
48kHz 16 bits
2 channels

48kHz 16 bits
4 channels
ON-BOARD MIC
Stereo
Stereo
RECORDING MEDIA
CompactFlash
2 slots
P2 cards
2 slots
ZEBRA 1
70-95%  plus/minus 5 %
50-109%
ZEBRA 2
70-100%
50-109%
SCENE FILES/CUSTOM PICTURE
9 on the camera
20 on the SD card
6 on the camera
4 on the SD card
WAVEFORM AND VECTORSCOPE
YES & YES
YES & YES
PRE REC
3 sec
3 sec
SD CARD FOR USER FILES & METADATA
YES
YES
USER BUTTONS (ASSIGNABLE)
13
5
PEAKING
White
Red
Yellow
Blue
White only
FACE DETECTION
YES
NO
OUTPUTS
HD-SDI
SD-SDI
HDMI
HD/SD component
3.5mm AV
Video BNC
3.5mm Headphones
2.5mm remote
USB 2.0

HD-SDI
SD-SDI
HDMI
3.5mm Headphones
2.5 and 3.5mm remote
USB 2.0
IEEE 1394 6 pin

TIMECODE IN & OUT
YES
YES
GENLOCK
YES
YES
WEIGHT
2,670g
[2,630g – XF300]

2,500g
WIDTH x HEIGHT x DEPTH
180mm x 236mm x 396mm
180mm x 195mm x 438mm